Ben Carson defended Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, who was charged with assaulting a female reporter, by essentially saying, “who hasn’t been charged with a misdemeanor?” CNN host John Berman quickly chimed in, “I actually haven’t been charged.”

Ben Carson, presidential candidate turned top Trump surrogate, defended Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski on CNN on Thursday.

During the segment, CNN host Kate Bolduan asked Carson if he thinks Lewandowski, who was recently arrested and charged with assaulting a female reporter, should still be running Trump’s campaign.

“I don’t see any reason why we should demonize him,” Carson said. “If you can come up with a good reason, I’ll listen to it.”

Bolduan’s co-host John Berman noted the obvious. “Well look he’s been charged with misdemeanor assault in Florida. A lot of people think that is a reason,” he said. Apparently, Carson doesn’t think that’s such a big deal:

CARSON: Well a lot of people have been charged with various things that doesn’t necessarily mean that we need to demonize them. You’ve probably been charged with something too. Maybe with a misdemeanor or something it doesn’t meant that you’re an evil, horrible person.